Showing posts with label ATKustom. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ATKustom. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 15, 2016

UPGRADES: The Power Post (Work in Progress)


Doing the supermoto post calculations of bore and stroke on that little 350 DSES got my brain boiling. It was not too long ago (alright a couple of years) in a blog entry I referenced this chart and made allusions to how much power I might be able to get out of the mighty 494 cc ATK.



So rather than sit and dream I did a little research on ways to get the most out of your Rotax. I wish that there was a more organized way to present this information, but since I kind of use this blog more for my own reference back to things I have seen, Ill just have to deal with the way I present it...

I will start with determining the power that I have. For the most part it has been subjective. The only other bikes I have ridden in the past 5 years have been a Ducati Hypermotard and a BMW GS1200. Those are bad baselines for comparison. I ride with a guy that has a 650 KLR and a Vstrom, and while I don't feel he can really get away from me in the twisties, his comfort at a sustained 75 is a lot higher than mine. Granted, I have a weight and vibrational disadvantage. I already CHANGED THE GEARING

Where are gains to be made? Some Harris Matchless G80 devotees pointus in the direction on Page 3 of a Jampot PDF. This gives a few pointers, but no how-to's:
 

CCM MAD Forum 604 rebuild and tune

INCREASING COMPRESSION RATIOS:
Dynamic vs static
Compression Decking- AKA Milling the cylinder head or using no head gasket, or even a thinner head gasket (copper)

CAMS Jampot pdf on why to fit a softer cam, and instructions on how to change the cam

HEAD WORK / VALVES
Porting and Flowing head: CCM MAD has good pics comparing heads pre and post porting / flowing here.
Engine Dynamics in Petaluma works on heads
Valves: Please see Ron Wood

FUEL AND AIR FLOW
This is an internal combustion engine right?
CARBURETOR / EXHAUST
 Accelerator pump?
Jets?
Mikuni VM44 vs Del Orto- Lee loves the delorto

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT:
Ron woods 676 Cylinder Ron Woods 100 cc Piston kit
Sportax in UK 640 kit.
Here is a write up about their 348 to 405 conversion.
Downside is reliability and needing to use race fuel. Bones describe this problem on the ATK rider Website in this thread.

GEARING

WEIGHT:
Exercise and Diet-Just lose some weight fat ass, riding on the road and not just a dyno is all about power to weight ratio and not just power.
Shorai Battery: Mild weight difference, but some say is noticable compared to the Yuasa.


ELECTRONICS
Rewound stator: Rex's speed shop claims 2-3 hp gains using a rewound race stator on the MT 350 and MT 500s.
 
CDI Box: The CCM folks claim that the programmable ignition delivers more consistent power across the rev range.

SUMMARY:
I really just need to get the 490 on the dyno, but for now I just bought 3 boxes worth of a 605 that I am putting together to do a side by side comparison of power... But that post is for another day.

Sunday, September 20, 2015

BIKES: 605 Supermotos from Around the Interweb

The internet, apparently it is not just for cats. In my usual google perusal of any combination of "ATK, Rotax, Supermoto, 605 etc..." I've come across a few pretty distinct SM customs, some better than others. I hope I don't come off as snide, because I think it is awesome what each of these people has done to make their vision become a reality.

#1 I'll call this one "OLD YELLER"

Yellow Frame and plastics? It almost looks factory! Wave rotor hotness. Black Tank. Black swingarm. Are those fork tubes anodized? And note the Non-ATK rear fender!

Swingarm seems to indicate 600 like the DT models... hmmmmm...

The 17's and especially these footpegs probably make this a whole lot more fun to ride.



#2 Yet another terrible alien supermoto headlight with a red white and blue motiff on this next one I'll call "ILL EAGLE ALIEN"

RED seat WHITE Tank BLUE Frame.

Terrible headlight is almost visible in this one.

The lack of number plates looks okay from the left, but that battery box begs to be hidden by some square footage of plastic.



#3 Sometimes dipping goes a little too far. This one I'll call "Midas Touch"

The black rotax looks pretty sharp, I'm just hoping they used something relatively high temp resistant on that motor and Supertrapp. Can't tell if that's a sprocket protector or not from the pics. The 320 mm rotor in front for stoppie time. It kind of reminds me of this one



#4 Fully stock looking except for the tiny wheel and custom fender, so I'll call this one "LITTLE FOOT"

This little 350 is a sleeper though because the owner did some engine work described later. Looks like they left the 18" in back. No additional views were available on his photobucket account, and no information about the fender on ADVrider where this was originally posted. The owner indicated on the forum that this was a 350 that he bored out to a 440. you might wonder why not 494 or 605. Well, a it turns out if you do the calculations, the limited stroke of the 348 (70.4 mm as compared to 79.4mm for the 494 and 81mm for the 605) means that even bored to 89 mm (494 bore)the total volume of the compression chamber will only be 440 cc. Even if he sleeved it out to 96.5 mm (bore of the 605), he would have only ended up with a 517 cc. That's enough math for now.



#5 I'll let you guess what the most prominent feature on this one is, meanwhile I'll call it "Hot Wheels"

Looks pretty standard except for the Yamaha tri spoke cast wheels.

Which is a pretty big accomplishment given that the ATK Talon size is seen as a "unicorn" fitment and so many people fret about destroying their dirt wheels to make a supermoto set. I wish there was more information available on how these bad boys were jimmied into position (Link up above to the description). It's not that I want tri spokes on the 490, but it might help the many of us interestd in not tearing apart the dirt set, and might give more options for rear braking given the "unobtanium" status of the rear brake rotor.



#6 Supermoto style with minimal investment! I'll call this one "18 WITH A BULLET"

I've often wondered why I shouldn't just relace the front hub to an 18" hoop to drop the bike a little and get a supermoto look. This guy did more than just wonder.

It might look better with a smaller front fender but overall the look is acheived.

The big drawback to this approach is the limited amount of tires available in 18" format. You might get the supermoto look, but you will likely end up mounting a rear tire on the front. This is somewhat contrary to the idea of making your bike into a SM, because the high sidewalls and lack of taper to the contact surface means no significant gains in cornering performance.


Well, that's it for this installment, I'll be keeping my eye on CL and eBay for other sweet custom rides. If you have any pics of some SM ATK's post them in the comments. NOTE: I omitted Bones and Michaelangelo's SMs because I have already posted them in previous blog entries.

Monday, September 14, 2015

REPAIRS: Resurrection Threads on BARF and ADVRider

If you haven't read through this entire thread, you owe it to yourself to do so. It starts with an abandoned ATK on a dock in the bay, and ends up with a beast that a 5 foot 5 inch woman can ride comfortably. Engine work, frame mods, foot peg relocation, seat height adjustment... this has it all. I wish I had this amount of awesome to post on this blog, but I'll just have to settle for linking to it.


This is another good one by GCRAD1 over on ADVRider about his adventures in working on his 605. Pretty cool pictures of petcock refurbishing, carb maint, bearing repacking, and also him meeting Ron Woods, and visiting De Wayne Johnson's suspension lab, and American Dirtbike.

Monday, August 25, 2014

REPAIRS: Rear and Countershaft Sprocket Change

Like any good story begins, I was out on a 100 mile Taco run on a Sunday morning last year minding my own business.

I started feeling some slippage in the hind end and the horrific sound of aluminum being eaten away.

Fewer teeth than a Eureka Tweeker, and that chain doesn't looks so hot either.

A quick call to Lee at ATK and I had a nice bright and shiny, yet slightly orange 48t in my mailbox. He was very in kind in telling me that I had my chain WAAAYYY too tight and the three finger rule is one to abide by and the only thing that could shred a 7075 aluminum sprocket is over tightening the chain. He was right.

Got a gold Regina D.I.D. 520x120 to "match" the talons

That Loctite was exactly that!

My countershaft

The countershaft I wish I had.

After trying to source the countershaft part locally I finally came to my senses and called down to Ron Woods shop and got a replacement 16t within a couple of days.

Of course trying to make sure it is "shouldered" and the splines are correct. Looks decent.

A few different shades of anodized gold FTW!

Took the opportunity while the bike was on the stand to take a look at the CRF brake pads....not so good.

Some EBCs popped in and I'll be doing stoppies in no time.
PART #s

Rear 48t Talon Sprocket 090034 From ATK

Regina D.I.D. 520X120 340582 From Amazon

Rotax 16t Countershaft Sprocket From Ron Woods
COSTS

Rear 48t Talon Sprocket $59.99 + $15 Shipping = $74.99

Regina D.I.D. 520 x 120 $88.44 Free shipping

Rotax 16t Countershaft Sprocket $34.99 + $16.60 Shipping + $2.80 tax = $54.39

Total: $217.82

Sunday, August 24, 2014

BIKES: Craigslist Customs

When I run across interesting bikes on Craigslist I try to make a point of saving the pics, which I will publish here with absolutely no permission whatsoever, except that the original owners put them out on the interwebz, and I say that is open season. Also, by "interesting" I may mean kick ass, or not so-much-so.

Carbon Fiber may look cool on some bikes

this is not one of those bikes

Gotta love the black and blue no logo style.

Note the custom black rims too

This bike is super clean, and takes advantage of the weight savings by ditching the plastics and bash plate.

I'm pretty sure you could save that much weight by taking a poop before riding. He also has incorporated the oft needed after market kick stand.

This owner tried to make his bike look super pimp with some color variation, but inadvertently provided us with a nice photoshop template to try out new colors on our bikes!

This shot looks a little more honest

This is the only appropriate color scheme for a red frame. Don't know why we don't see more of these floating around. Super beast mode! Also that sprocket doesn't exactly look like a Talon made situation... hmmmmmmm

Mardi Gras themed ATK. Would you like to earn some beads?

Super clean street tracker.

Looks like the owner plopped an 18 on front and done. Digging that custom seat, looks plush.

Flat track style: check - low mounted Supertrapp, custom tank topper to match the seat, all he needs is the last bikes wheel set and he should be golden.

MURDERED OUT! This guy's ad said that he had just murdered the whole bike out using Plastidip... I'm willing to bet that has not stayed on the Rotax. Just be glad he left the discs alone.

Red, White, and Blue

Yet still looks a tad alien, no?

Like a girl with some overenthusiastic rhinoplasty.